This Family Tree Podcast

Ep. 95: Jessica DeFino & Tara McKenna

July 18, 2021

Alex and Shane chat brewery tours, hugging loved ones, our new reality, mean kids at the playground, and Lucy's attitude toward being rejected. 


Beauty writer and journalist Jessica DeFino discusses the hard truths of the beauty industry, and the ideas behind an article she penned, "You're Not Wearing Makeup For You" (which Alex is obsessed with). They talk empowerment, addiction to injectables, why that Botox probably won't solve your self-esteem issues, and how we can actually rise above it all (and why we should want to!).


Tara McKenna of @mindfully.tara and @zero.waste.collective candidly shares her IVF experience, and her introduction to sustainable living. She discusses what living "zero-waste" (or close to it) will look like as she journeys into motherhood, and practical ways that we can all reduce waste in daily life.


Listener questions are answered in the mailbag segment, hitting topics like elimination communication, people pleasing, bagged milk in Canada, ways to improve sleep, sharing pregnancy announcements with family, and whether having two kids has ever been a regret!


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